Computer Case Cooler Master HAF 912 Plus (Black) CPU AMD Athlon II 250 2 x 2.9 GHz CPU Heatsink AMD Heatsink & Fan Memory Corsair 4GB XMS3 PC3-12800 1600MHz (1x4GB) - Lifetime Warranty (DDR3) Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 - 2 GB - (PALIT) (PCI-E) Motherboard Asus M4A87TD EVO (AMD 870) Sound Card Asus Xonar DG 5.1 (PCI) Networking Motherboard Integrated Ethernet Lan (Broadband Ready) USB Ports Motherboard Integrated USB Ports Power Supply 700W PSU Case Wiring Professional Standard Hard Drive #1 500 GB SATA-II 16MB (FREE UPGRADE TO 750GB BEFORE 11:59 PM ON 13-02-11) Optical Drive #1 LG (CH10LS20) 10x Blu-Ray Reader & 16x Dual Layer DVD +/- RW Writer - Black (SATA) Card Reader Internal Card Reader 50-in-1 Operating System #1 Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64 BIT (Genuine DVD & COA Included) Office Software OpenOffice 3.2.1 (Unlimited PC License) Backup Software Windows Backup £755 Computer Case Inwin Griffin Gaming Case (Black) CPU AMD Athlon II 250 2 x 2.9 GHz CPU Heatsink AMD Heatsink & Fan Memory Corsair 4GB XMS3 PC3-10666 1333MHz (1x4GB) - Lifetime Warranty (DDR3) Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD 5770 - 1 GB - DVI/VGA/HDMI (XFX) (PCI-E) Motherboard Gigabyte GA-770T-D3L (AMD 770) Sound Card Asus Xonar DG 5.1 (PCI) Networking Edimax Wireless LAN 300Mbps (PCI) USB Ports Motherboard Integrated USB Ports Power Supply 700W PSU Case Wiring Professional Standard Hard Drive #1 500 GB SATA-II 16MB (FREE UPGRADE TO 750GB BEFORE 11:59 PM ON 13-02-11) Optical Drive #1 LG (CH10LS20) 10x Blu-Ray Reader & 16x Dual Layer DVD +/- RW Writer - Black (SATA) Operating System #1 Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64 BIT (Genuine DVD & COA Included) Backup Software Windows Backup Keyboard Standard Slim Keyboard (PS/2) Mouse BLAZE Black Optical Mouse (Wireless) total price is £631 $1,011 i'm going to save my money for a few months and try to get one of these 2, But i need some more info, Will either of the systems crash because of the hardware? Are the parts up to date to run with modern games? Would it be a good idea to look inside my fathers PC for parts that may be useful (he never uses it and it's in the cupboard! I have no idea how up to date it is but it's in a nice case and it may be running windows 95 but he could of changed the theme, He has no idea what he does on computers and i think he got it off of his friend who i hate) Is there any cheaper gaming rigs that are pre-made that could run modern games at a high frame rater (higher than 20 fps is quite high for me lol).? If anyone can, In the UK, Could you design me a gaming pc online that is pretty cheap but worthy of modern games, And i'll just change some stuff that isn't necissery (Like the HD, Case, Optical drives ect) . Yes, I know that the HD is necessary for the system but i mean the size of it. Fuck you and your alienware, I refuse to buy that shit!